Also looking at your comment history and the modlogs, it looks like you like to deliberately push people’s buttons and troll. For example posting non-vegan recipes in vegan groups is making you look not credible.
As much as a nuisance db0 and their co-admins are, I am not gonna side with trolls either.
My trolling of Vegans is exclusively a response to Vegans demanding everyone surrender eggs and never eat meat on any occasion.
Dipshits being dipshits shouldn’t alter your moral compass. That’s “owning the libs” level discourse. You gotta leave that behind.
I find the more militant vegans to be annoying, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to troll them. They’re not worth the effort, and the end goal (less suffering, even if I don’t privilege animal suffering as equivalent to human suffering) aligns with mine. That they’re going about it in a potentially counterproductive way doesn’t mean I join the opposition.
That they’re going about it in a potentially counterproductive way doesn’t mean I join the opposition.
Okay this is getting a bit off-topic I guess but I get what you mean but the logic when taken to the extreme is silly and non-functional and creates more animal- and human suffering.
For one hunting as a way to control deer populations as controlling the population is a must since one of our ancestors went and replaced wolves hereabouts and bringing them back (I wouldn’t mind it) wouldn’t be as good population control and also not good for the wolves. Also also a deer suffers more when run down by a wolf than when one-shot killed by a rifle.
I support vegan products all the time and don’t really consume non-game meats if at all possible.
But like I said, offtopic. I agree with you that I wouldn’t go and troll the vegans, I do like arguing with them, as their ideology, while kinda naive, is at its core trying to help animals. And that I do too. So I just want to make them better at it and thus point out the flaws in their worldview. Not to mock them, to help them.
our ancestors went and replaced wolves … bringing them back … not good for the wolves
Umm yeah I’m going to stand firmly on the platform that wild populations that were devastated by human intervention benefit from the alleviation of that devastation.
Please do give an example. Humans have been the apex predator around these parts for literally thousands of years. We manage the deer. We don’t devastate it. If you threw in a pack of wolves, never even mind about the social effects of throwing them into what is now a population center has, the wolves don’t have an understanding of how many deer are supposed to be killed and how many aren’t.
I would love more wolves around my area, I’m not afraid of them at all. But it’s just not feasible anymore.
Might be hard for you to understand but not all human actions destroy nature.
Also looking at your comment history and the modlogs, it looks like you like to deliberately push people’s buttons and troll. For example posting non-vegan recipes in vegan groups is making you look not credible.
As much as a nuisance db0 and their co-admins are, I am not gonna side with trolls either.
My trolling of Vegans is exclusively a response to Vegans demanding everyone surrender eggs and never eat meat on any occasion.
If you want to be vegan thats fine but if your idea of helping others make that choice is to insult them then fuck off.
Why do you think you can insult people without being insulted yourself?
That’s nice, deary
Dipshits being dipshits shouldn’t alter your moral compass. That’s “owning the libs” level discourse. You gotta leave that behind.
I find the more militant vegans to be annoying, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to troll them. They’re not worth the effort, and the end goal (less suffering, even if I don’t privilege animal suffering as equivalent to human suffering) aligns with mine. That they’re going about it in a potentially counterproductive way doesn’t mean I join the opposition.
Okay this is getting a bit off-topic I guess but I get what you mean but the logic when taken to the extreme is silly and non-functional and creates more animal- and human suffering.
For one hunting as a way to control deer populations as controlling the population is a must since one of our ancestors went and replaced wolves hereabouts and bringing them back (I wouldn’t mind it) wouldn’t be as good population control and also not good for the wolves. Also also a deer suffers more when run down by a wolf than when one-shot killed by a rifle.
I support vegan products all the time and don’t really consume non-game meats if at all possible.
But like I said, offtopic. I agree with you that I wouldn’t go and troll the vegans, I do like arguing with them, as their ideology, while kinda naive, is at its core trying to help animals. And that I do too. So I just want to make them better at it and thus point out the flaws in their worldview. Not to mock them, to help them.
Umm yeah I’m going to stand firmly on the platform that wild populations that were devastated by human intervention benefit from the alleviation of that devastation.
“devastated by”?
Please do give an example. Humans have been the apex predator around these parts for literally thousands of years. We manage the deer. We don’t devastate it. If you threw in a pack of wolves, never even mind about the social effects of throwing them into what is now a population center has, the wolves don’t have an understanding of how many deer are supposed to be killed and how many aren’t.
I would love more wolves around my area, I’m not afraid of them at all. But it’s just not feasible anymore.
Might be hard for you to understand but not all human actions destroy nature.