• timestatic@feddit.org
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      5 days ago

      China literally has private companies and a very uneven wealth distribution and barely any social safety net. I would definitely not say the workers are in control there. Sure the party has a strong influence and they decide what flies, but that doesn’t mean they’re socialist. The party elite has become its own kind of elite and not “the people”

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      5 days ago

      Yeah I argued ‘markets get shit done’ until someone drove a thin wedge by saying ‘capitalism is the part where owning things makes money.’

      For all the reading and bickering these people do, most are useless at conveying a message. Just using the word “property,” like anyone not inculcated understands their specific sharp-edged definition, has been a constant obstacle for the last century and a half.