Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

  • bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world
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    My comment questioning if celebrating the deaths of US soldiers was such a good look for them got removed by mods on lemmy.ml/c/worldnews

    Apparently this was an irredemable position that goes against everything the average .ml mod believes in (shitposting on niche, far-left sites).

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    I did the same thing and I fully agree

    I also ban any .ml user on sight

    It’s been great for my mental health too

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      If only .ml would label itself as explicitly political so that people knew what it was about rather than having to discover it the hard way…

      Especially when browsing by All, and all the more so when the default setting of the most popular 3rd party apps actively hides the instance names, on both users and communities, it’s really impossible to know unless you go tinkering with those settings to their non-default values.

      It is very easy to forget what the experience looks like for a brand-new user of the Fediverse.

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    Lmao “far left propaganda” what’s that? Everyone should be fed and housed, equal rights?

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      I can list you a few talkpoints that repeat

      • China and russia are good places to live in and are better to be than the west because they’re “comunist”
      • Russian isn’t the agressor in the russo-ukranian war and ukrainians are nazis
      • Capitalism bad and comunism good posts dropped in comunitires dedicated to comedy but with no punchlines at all
      • Just about everything i don’t agree with is US imperialism
      • Nato bad

      It’s quite distinct from actual leftist talkpoints, like equal housing, equal rights, and universal public servives from everyone - they don’t seem to care about any of that

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        If they’re defending Russia (a fascist state), then the term you’re looking for is fascist propaganda, not “leftist” propaganda.

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        because they aren’t political leftists. they are authoritarians who pretend to be leftists so they can claim they are populists.

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        None of that is far left you numpty.

        The only thing remotely leftist in what you said is capitalism bad. Which we have ample evidence for how and why unregulated/deregulated capitalism is bad for anyone that doesnt own a personal yacht

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          You’re right about the capitalism bad part, but comunism good isn’t generally a leftist talking point.

          Well, if these aren’t far left, they sure aren’t leftist because i haven’t ever seen anybody in the left repeat these points.

          Somebody else in this thread suggested this idea as well, that perhaps their points shoudn’t be though of as leftist or far-leftist, but as something else…

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            comunism good isn’t generally a leftist talking point

            The biggest leftwing party in the world is the Communist Party of China. I have a feeling they would say that communism is good.

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    My lemmy experience got soooo much better once I blocked hexbear and ml instances. Kudos to you for your peace of mind.

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    I won’t block anyone even if their straight up assholes because even a broken clock is right twice a day and I actually have learned some information that was true from them.

    That being said though the ones who say North Korea is a utopia and USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine (true) but that Russia giving drones and military equipment to Iran isn’t the same thing and that isn’t a proxy war or that Mao was some sort hero of the people (I could definitely go on from here) those people are idiots and its very easy to look up anything they say and see that its complete bullshit.

    I’m still not gonna block them. Hit them with an “Ok” and move on with your day. As soon as you pull out the graphs or cite multiple sources they will just ban you so there’s no point in fucking with them. Until they post on here from North Korea and prove us all wrong, you can easily disregard any of the bullshit they say.

    That said the ONE person I have ever blocked on Lemmy was someone who posted a cartoon picture of a little kids butt on the self hosted community. I still don’t understand what that was about and I not only blocked them but reported them for that too. But other than child stuff, I probably won’t ever block anyone even if they’re complete assholes.

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    I wouldn’t need a “clean” front page because I don’t feel threatened by people having different opinions than me. I wish you good luck with your clean front page and clean mind. Hopefully you can find some peace now.

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      really, sounds like you shouldn’t be running an ad blocker or any of that stuff then. because you don’t need a clean internet, it’s good to view the web saturated with ads trying to sell you shit you don’t want or need.

      Also, you should only read books that you aren’t interested in or that you hate. Because what is the point of reading if you aren’t making yourself miserable while doing so?

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        Hmm interesting that you found yourself stumbling through so many logical fallacies in order to craft an argument. Are the tankies trying to sell you something?

        Yes, you should probably read books that are outside of your confort zone.

        If you hate people from .ml or they make you feel uncomfortable or upset, yea go ahead block them. You’re both the one with the problem and the one who has the tools to solve the problem. So go ahead and make things really clean for yourself. I don’t want you to catch any cooties.

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          I hate bullies, yeah. Your entire post here is typical .ml user trope.

          Call something a logical fallacy, posture yourself as superior, then insult the user and try to goad them into a name-calling, so you can play the victim.

          It’s proverbial crybully behaviour. please also include a DM about how you are going to beat me up, while you’re at it. because threatening people is very logical and aware and I should be glad to be beaten by you.

          Because you know, we just need to re-educate the population in physical labor camps, and THEN they will finally understnad the glory of marxism leninism and the freedom it will bring to everyone!

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            please also include a DM about how you are going to beat me up, while you’re at it

            I certainly hope this isn’t happening. I’m fine with spirited disagreements and different viewpoints, but personal attacks and definitely threats of violence won’t be tolerated here.

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            It was a logical fallacy lol. If you think I was posturing as superior, that’s a feeling that came from within your heart.

            You can’t just spit out nonsense and act like you made a good point. If you feel that our interaction is similar to how you interact with users from .ml, it’s likely that you are just someone who gets deep into conflict with other users very easily and is constantly making bad faith arguments in an attempt to “win” the internet.

            No is fucking cyberbullying you lmao. I am not an .ml user and don’t have an agenda. No one had threatened anyone. This is actually hilarious. You can’t accuse people of pointing out that you argue with logical fallacies, and then go on this entire straw-man rant about how you’re being threatened and bullied. That literally didn’t happen. Nothing like that happened.

            Even more hilarious that you are saying that I am trying to make myself a victim, and then accusing me of threatening you and cyberbullying you. You can’t make this stuff up. lol.

            You don’t hate bullies, you hate it when people you are trying to bully with bad faith arguments argue back.

            Looking at your profile, you are currently engaged in like 6 different bad faith arguments with other users. You literally cannot interact with people in any way other than getting into negative interactions with them. You must feel absolutely exhausted. You think you’re fighting some sort of holy war against the communists? Go ride a fucking bike or go for a walk or something. Geez. lol. Social media seems to have scrambled your mind, consumed by negativity. You are bullying yourself.

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              ok buddy, where is my bad faith and logical fallacies? you seek repeating these words but you don’t reference what you mean in an specific way.

              your ‘argument’ so far is ‘everything you said is illogical and bad faith’. which is basically ‘i don’t like what you say’

              No, i don’t think any of that. You’re the one making up this elaborate fictional narrative about a random internet stranger. Which is exactly what a crybully does on the internet. they over dramatize everything.

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    Amen brother.

    There are a few instances where like 90% of the problematic content and users come from. Blocking them makes the fediverse FAR more enjoyable and pleasant. And reduces the harassment and violent content by 90%

    Sane leftists need to shut out the insane ones. Those folks dont’ care about politics in any actionable way. All they care about is feeling superior to everyone else based on their theoretical beliefs and their weird cult of worship they have created with facts don’t matter and alternative history is the truth.

    I’m currently debating with myself whether to block sh.itjust.works next, because it seems to be becoming another hotbed of bad actors who are here to be purely negative and hostile to other users and push extremist content, and if you counter point them they just harass the shit out of you and follow you around across various communities.

    in fact a lot of folks i blocked on other instances are now posting from that instance under the same username. seems like some folks just keep swapping instances once enough folks have blocked them on another instance for their harassment and horrible posts.

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      Hey, do what you want. I don’t blame anyone blocking an instance any more than blocking US news. You’ll miss out on seeing witchy memes tho.

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        i’m fundamentally at odds with new age religious movements, like wiccanism. especially because the cast themselves as original and profound, when they are most often a repackaging of the selfishness is self-fulfillment ethos and engage in magical thinking as a solution to pragmatic problems… rather than just solving the problem by taking direct action.

        witchdom stuff has the same energy to me as Goop, in that it’s legit late stage capitalism kitsch. but i understand its appeal as an escape mechanism.

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          I guess it depends on what flavor of witchdom. I definitely understand where you are coming from, and agree almost all is centered around helping the individual feel/be less confined by the pragmatic and concrete. At the same time, I find being unbound and abstract places me in the right headspace to consider philosophical and psychological ideas with greater satisfaction and complexity. Hermetic Alchemy in particular likes to blend the physical with the spiritual.

          I’m curious. Do you have the same at odds relationship with common religions, and is it more of less contentious than with these newer movements?

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            not really, but i don’t think of religions in broad sweeping terms. fwiw most of my social relationships are with liberal catholics, reformist jews, Episcopalians, and liberal shia muslims. and a lot of old school hippies who just wanted to chill out and do mushrooms.

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    I’m giving this a try.

    Not sure if it’s my issue, because I don’t really see much pro-China / pro-Russia crap. But I am exhausted by the nonstop extreme left groupthink.

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    When everything is extreme and far right, any attempt to common sense will seem far far to the left.

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      If this thread was talking about universal heathcare, or how to give people actual equal rights, or how to improve public education, or how eliminate modern fascism from western politics, or how the US governmemt should be reformed from the ground up we would be talking all day, and likely agreeing in a lot of points.

      But i don’t think North Korea is a good place to live in, my brother.

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        Yankees would rather keep believing that north korean women casually travel with 200kg bags of rice than stop pushing nazis as “progressive reformists”

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      and when the vast majority of the population is in the middle, and you’re on the extreme, you’ll think they are against you.

      when what they really think is you are weird and annoying and you should shut up because you’re talking about shit that nobody wants or even cares about.

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        I see vast majority in the far right though, swallowing the pill, starting proof is how they vote, the hate for immigration, the normalization of genocide, denying of scientific method , as in flat earthers, anti vaccines, podcasters and youtubers who didn’t study shit spreading misinformation as science, etc, trillionares advocating for destroying public services and keep the poor ,poorest, normalization of "coliving’ and ultra small habitation as a normal thing, etc. I could keep on with examples whole day long.

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          you spend too much time on feeding the algorithms. i don’t ever see any of that shit, because i’m not interested in it.

          if you only listen to crazy people, you will think everyone is crazy because you don’t ever talk to normal people, and you probably won’t pay attention to them anyway, because they arent’ saying crazy shit.

          stop living to be upset and offended and you might actually realize how chill the average person is.