With Reddit just announcing ai mods for sub reddits I think it’s finally time I fully give it up. I’ve been slowly trying to transition back into the fediverse but damn is it hard sometimes. Listen I have left leaning politics but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab, I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about. Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week. If I wasn’t so dedicated to dropping Reddit I think the average Joe would have left by now seeing all of this. And YES I have been trying to be the change I want to see if you check my profile I regularly post in meme subs non political just funny memes to be like “lmao” and people can move about their day. I’m not saying there ISNT other type of content on lemmy or piefed it just feels like the stuff that floats to the top is political
What you’re missing is the algorithm.
You didn’t want to see that on Reddit, and it’s designed to steer away. Lemmy doesn’t decide what you see. You have to curate your own feed through a long process of blocking users and communities and using subscribe rather than a steady diet of all.
You can shape the all tab to your liking by blocking communities that regularly post stuff you don’t like. I did this with meme communities and rarely see any memes anymore. Sometimes it’s a whole instance that is full of communities you don’t want to see, then you might want to block it. Examples of those for me are ani.social for sexualized anime and fedinsfw.app for NSFW content.
Once you do this kind of trimming, the All feed becomes a lot less annoying.
You can just curate your experience by making changes to the feed and shutting off what you feel are sources of distressing content.
Given the current state of affairs where if being a progressive American is a harrowing struggle, it’s not surprising the fediverse is a refuge and outlet for angry progressives and people who have been alienated by spez’s war on left-leaning content, as he will ban anyone even remotely or casually talking of committing violence on awful fascists and robber barons.
You can set default subs to show, and block communities. It’s much nicer to look at the news when you want to rather than all the time.
There’s also no curated algorithm to cause that dopamine rush, that causes the addiction, so you want to scroll and hit those juicy dopamine posts, but without the manipulation designed to keep you engaged and stuck, not going to happen. So it’s also a great place to detox from your brain being in the habit of seeking dopamine that way, it’s like a slow lowering to the ground, instead of cold turkey.
I was really feeling the loss of those dopamine hits, when I first transitioned over here, but now I don’t look for those hits here at all, and I can just enjoy a small scroll, without getting stuck in here, and put my phone down, which is nice.
What reddit and Facebook do, is hugely manipulative and created and curated to trap you there. I don’t know if that needs to be the same here, as much. And maybe curating your home page, really is the way to go.
I don’t like how people talk about The Algorithm™ as though any feed algorithm is inherently a problem and exists to keep people trapped in the app.
I’d love to have an algorithm automatically curated my feed so I don’t have to manually curate it, since the curation tools are so coarse.
PieFed categories of communities do this, with user-customizable and shareable Feeds. Perhaps check out PieFed.ca - it has the same set of admins that you have now, and even without an account you can view these and then subscribe to those communities in your Lemmy one, see full list at https://piefed.ca/topics.
What juicy dopamine posts are you talking about?
there are a handful of users who just post shitty low quality rage bait from shitty websites constantly across various communities all day long. many of these users were not on fedi a year ago.
like, websites you have never heard of, that are highly editorialized and frame things as dramatic and hyperbolic as possible.
and these posts dominate many of the news and politics communities, because juicy dopamine headlines mean people upvote.
and the comment sections are dumpster fires of similar minded folks, and anyone who is skeptical/critical gets dog piled and/or the OP comes out swinging calling them a fascist for daring to challenge the ‘trump does thing world is collapsing’ narrative they are all addicted to.
it’s all engagement/rage bait quality stuff. it’s not like, respectable moderate journalism that reports facts, that shit doesn’t get upvotes because the headlines are not juicy enough.
FWIW I have been on fedi for 3 years and this stuff is exploded the past 6-9 months, I used to like the news/politics subs a year ago because they were not dominated by this low quality content and typically had more respectable news-sources. but you can’t compete with low-brow rage bait trolls who are just here to collect as many upvotes and flood the zone with dramatic bullshit to drive engagement, and that’s what these posters are doing. if you confront them they just say you are a bad person who clearly supports Trump etc.
Somehow on the backend the wires must have got crossed and sent c/Lemmyshitpost content over to c/news instead 🤪
(/s …?)
The world is actively imploding. You desperately want to put your head in the sand, but you’re bored down there, so you now want to pull your head out and have the rest of us maintain your childish illusion while you ignore objective reality. Grow up and scroll beyond posts you don’t need
You’re also showing yourself as confidently ignorant as you’re angry, but also obviously aren’t filtering certain communities or keywords that your sensitive eyes can’t handle with your app. Again, grow up.
or they just want to avoid people like you. because you know, it’s insufferable to be lectured how you such by random strangers who just want to go on about catastrophe when most likely they are living a very cushy life, hence they need to be obsessed with politics in a wholly negative way, because that is the only major drama/tension in their life.
That’s all you have are insults? Grow up.
Tell me all about the political shit going on mate! I blocked them, keywords + communities. Lots of USA communities that never end but populate for no reason.
Block politics and join femcelmemes.
Agreed. Wish there would be a political filter similar to the nsfw one. In that way you wouldn’t have to isolate yourself to certain subs
I have always felt surrounded by right wing bullshit, on previous socials and in life.
This is the only place where I look around, and believe that it is people further to the left of me that are maybe taking things a bit far. I do NOT, for the record, agree with the apologists who want us to let more fash in, I like being in a place where I am, for once, the moderate.
Agreed. Too much politics. I started my own communities for things I’m interested in and I recommend you try that.
I did a couple things to make my life comfy here.
I changed my default sort to be “new comments” - this gave me the biggest perspective change on Lemmy, I now see where the active conversations are and it makes the place feel more full of people and less pages and pages of empty threads. I also found a lot less political stuff this way, because it gets posted a lot but people only interact with just a few of the political posts, so only those one end up floating to the top. I am finding myself getting less politics this way on Lemmy than I was on reddit. Also has the added bonus of highlighting where the active communities are.
I blocked Lemmy.ml and hexbear. A lot of the wilder leftist stuff comes from them and once it was blocked I saw the amount of politics in my feed drop right away.
Love sorting by “new comments” I believe old message boards where also sorted like that on default? or maybe im misremembering. Sadly PieFed does not have that yet :(
I dont like that posts from 24h ago are already forgotten and you never really get a broader perspective on things because I think people (me included) don’t bother commenting on stuff nobody will see as its not “Hot” anymore. I would love to see threads/posts being active for a longer time.
I also like piefeds “Active” algorithm. It does filter out alot of circle jerk content where there really is not much to talk about instead of agreeing.
I believe you’re somehow subsconciously expecting an algorithm to curate your feed.
On Lemmy that work is on you.
If you don’t curate your own feed, the feed curates you, and then someone, somewhere, is going to have to clean that mess up sometime.
I mean the decision you are doing of leaving reddit and joining the fediverse is a political one and people who joins here is not because there’s more people or something like that so this means there’s a bias in the community towards caring about this things, and it will be like this until the fediverse doesn’t become the default (if it ever happens). So just take this into account, as people say, use less the all if that bothers you.
Yeah, no matter your political leanings, you gotta approach the fediverse in reverse of the way reddit worked. Reddit, you went and subbed to the things you were interested in and only went to the all feed if you wanted random discovert.
With lemmy, piefed and mbin (or kbin, whichever is still in use), you have to default to the all feed because there’s only so much activity per community, which means discovery is much harder and your subscribed feed takes months sometimes to get filled in with useful things. It’s more efficient and enjoyable to spend the time pruning out the non enjoyed stuff from the all feed so that you have access to more things overall.
That’s helped by app that have filters. You can weed out a lot of bullshit just with keywords preventing specific topics coming up even in communities you are in.
The fediverse is more work on the user’s part to make work. I don’t consider that a bad thing overall, but it does make it hard for ex redditors (aka r/effugees) to on board, and can be confusing for total newcomers to threaded forums.
Tbh though, ten plus years ago, the initial reddit experience for a noob there was worse in many ways. Hell, outright hostile at times, if you were a noob that dared speak your mind against the zeitgeist of a given sub. At least here, you usually only run into that if you’re not fairly solidly leftist, or try to hate on linux. That’s much easier to deal with imo.
Whatever happened to !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl? That was great for finding new communities which actually had active posters.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/trendingcommunities@lemmy.cafe has a bot. I always forget how to make it crosspost, sorry about that.
!trendingcommunities@lemmy.cafe, but it doesn’t seem to have posted since April
I could have sworn that it just posted last week. Oh well.
Oh man I forgot about that one. Sad it’s inactive.
They paused it in favor of other things like the new community one in .world (I think that’s where it is?).
That’s the one!
I really miss the old wild west of reddit, but you’re totally right it was a much more insane and hostile place for anyone not conforming to the circlejerk. These kinds of smaller communities starting out are also not made for the kinda late adopters that may be wanting to come over and not even just lurk but doomscroll for hours. People will have the best experience if they find a dopamine hit in creating and sharing original content or they can handle lurking for a few minutes at a time and then going out and touching grass the rest of the day.












