No, maybe that wasn’t it. Words precede and surpass me, they tempt and alter me, and if I am not careful it will be too late: things will be said without my having said them. Or, at the very least, that wasn’t the only thing. My entanglement comes from how a carpet is made of so many threads that I can’t resign myself to following just one; my ensnarement comes from how one story is made of many stories. And I can’t even tell them all— a more truthful word could from echo to echo cause my highest glaciers to crumble down the precipice.” - Clarice Lispector

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Cake day: December 9th, 2023

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  • I am so tired of this lazy narrative, the obvious truth here is CENTRALIZED SPACES ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE ECHO CHAMBER EFFECT.

    Yes it is still a problem here of course but the diversity here mitigates not worsens that issue.

    If you are going to disagree with me prove it with data and facts I don’t care about your anecdotally derived feelings about it.

    Echo Chambers literally require large monolithic enclosed spaces to echo, a series of isolated smaller foam cells form materials with sound deadening properties so not only is the intuition/metaphor wrong here it is 180 degrees wrong.

    https://www.thevitagroup.com/en/vita-blog/how-does-soundproofing-foam-work/

    Sound absorbing foams are typically softer and more lightweight than their sound blocking counterparts. Sound absorbing foams typically feature open and flexible foam cell structures, which act as natural absorbers of sound waves, preventing further reverberation from hard surfaces such as walls, floors and ceilings.

    This is achieved by converting existing sound energy to heat, as the sound-wave energy is dissipated within the porous structure of the acoustic foam, thereby reducing the ability of sound-waves to bounce back into the room.

    The structure most prone to the Echo Effect is a Cathedral not a dense network of semi-isolated smaller spaces. Every time we discuss “Echo Chambers” without recognizing this it dumbs the conversation down further.


  • Explain that reddit (or you can use twitter–>mastodon) is three things, it is

    1. a company
    2. a software
    3. a social network.

    Explain that the fediverse is the 2nd thing, and that because it is open source and community maintained you don’t need the 1st thing i.e. the company which makes the 3rd thing, the actual community and social network, able to be semi-decentralized and not controlled by one corporation and/or government.

    The way this is accomplished is there are lots of individual communities/social networks that all “federate” together based upon a common protocol (called ActivityPub) so that interaction can happen between users from different communities without it being an issue.

    Explain that lemmy and piefed are “reddit-likes”, mastodon is a “twitter-like” and pixelfed is a “instagram-like” as examples of what the fediverse version of common corporate social networks look like.

    Most importantly, emphasize over and over again that nobody cares if you walk away from your fediverse account and don’t engage for months, nobody is trying to shove ads down your throat or pay off a massive Venture Capital investment, while people do often contribute to support their community after they decide they really like it, there is no monetization driving the whole network, people show up because they want to be here, that is it. Further if you don’t like the way a community is run there are real actual alternatives, it isn’t a binary thing like corporate social media.